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Saturday, November 25, 2006

Medjugorje - Arguments of Bishop Zanic (Part III)

Excerpts from soon to be published book.Copyright (c) Paul Baylis, Comments are welcome, but unauthorised use of any material here is strictly forbidden and legal action will be taken if ignored. Please email with any comments or requests to use this text.

On the 4th of April 1982, Vicka and Jakov came to visit me "sent by Our Lady." The chaplains of Mostar, Vego and Prusina, were thrown out of the Franciscan Order in January of that year by the superiors of their Order. Many followers of Medjugorje and "Our Lady" defended the expelled chaplains. During our conversation, Vicka very excitedly began: "The last time we were with you, we didn't tell you everything and for this reason Our Lady scolded us. We spoke of many things and therefore we forgot..." "What did you forget?" "Our Lady told us to tell you that those chaplains, Vego and Prusina, are priests and, therefore, they can celebrate Mass just like other priests." "Wait a minute. Did Our Lady tell you this before our last meeting?" "Yes, that's why she sent us to you. Last time I spoke of many other things and I forgot to mention this." during that previous meeting I asked her directly several times if Our Lady mentioned anything about the two chaplains. It was clear to me that Vicka was lying, and this was proof enough for me not to trust her statements. Marija and Jakov also participated in this lie.

Editors Note: We see that, indeed Vicka and Jakov owned up to their lie. We can only speculate why they lied, but one can’t help thinking that they did not want to anger the Bishop by relating what the Virgin had told them about him. However, despite this, the salient point is that Our Lady scolded them for omitting part of the message and they came back to correct the situation.

Towards the end of January 1983, Rev. Grafenauer, a Jesuit priest, came to me with the intention of researching the phenomenon of Medjugorje. He listened to 20 cassettes, and after having listened to them he said that he would not go to Medjugorje because he concluded that Our Lady was not appearing there. Upon my insistence he went to Medjugorje and after a few days he came back as a "convert" of Fr. Vlasic. He brought some documents, threw them on the table and said: "Here's what Our Lady wishes to tell you!" I understood this as a plot to overthrow the bishop with the help of Our Lady. The documents he brought were a compilation of Vicka's diary, the parish chronicle and hand-written documents. For this reason it is difficult to establish where they were first written. Vicka and those who defend Medjugorje hid this from the bishop for more than a year. Here are a few quotes:

December 19, 1981: "Our Lady said that the bishop is to blame for the disorder in Herzegovina. She also said that Rev. Ivica Vego is not to blame, yet that the bishop has all authority. Our Lady said that he [Vego] should remain in Mostar and not leave.

January 3, 1982: All the "seers" together asked Our Lady about Rev. Ivica Vego. Our Lady answered: "Ivica is innocent. If they throw him out of the Franciscan Order, may he remain courageous.... Ivica is innocent." Our Lady repeated this three times.

January 11, 1982: We asked again about the two chaplains of Mostar, and Our Lady repeated twice what she had mentioned earlier regarding them. (Note: January 14, 1982, Vicka was at the Chancery office with the bishop and at that meeting she mentioned that she did not know Vego.)

January 20, 1982: The children asked what Rev. Ivica Vego and Rev. Ivan Prusina were to do now that they were thrown out of the Order. Our Lady answered: "They are innocent. The bishop was harsh in his decision. They can stay."

April 15, 1982: Vicka asked Our Lady a question. "Could you generally tell me everything about Ivica Vego and Ivan Prusina?" Our Lady smiled at first and then she said, "They are innocent." She repeated twice that: "The bishop has made a mistake... let them remain at Mostar.... they can say Mass sometimes but may they be careful to stay away from attention until things calm down. They have no faults...."

April 16, 1982: "Yesterday while we were with Our Lady we asked her if we could pray the Our Father for them [Vego and Prusina]. She answered immediately: 'Yes you can,' and she prayed with them. When we finished the prayer she smiled and said to me: "Those two are constantly on your mind." I answered, "You're right."

April 26, 1982: Our Lady: "The bishop has no real love of God in his heart. Regarding the bishop, may Ivica and Ivan remain calm. What the bishop is doing is contrary to the will of God, yet he can do as he pleases, but one day justice as you have never seen shall be revealed."

Editors Note: All of this has already been discussed. It is clear that the Bishop simply couldn’t believe, or refused to believe that he could possibly be in the wrong. In fact in 1993, a few years after these objections were published, the Bishop was indeed found to have been acting contrary to canonical law, while Vego and Prusina were cleared of any wrongdoing. The Vatican knows full well what has been going on. Furthermore, the Vatican has tacitly agreed with the Virgin because we see how the Bishop of Mostar’s opinions on Medjugorje have been essentially disowned by the Vatican officially in an official letter.
The case of Grafenauer demonstrates an important point, i.e. that despite the enticing arguments put forward by the Bishop and other detractors, the truth can probably never be discovered without an open mind and without first-hand experience.


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